ISO Eth Monarch

I need a 0os or 4os Monarch i'll offer 1x UM for 0os or 2x UM for 4os|||http://dl.dropbox.com/u/443421/D2/ebug.spirit.jpg

I have this, but your offers are ridiculously low.|||then you should keep it to yourself, mysticc|||Quote:








then you should keep it to yourself, mysticc




No.

I mean, "How dare someone actually want what their item is worth. They must be evil for wanting value for value. It's a socialist society. They must give it to me for really cheap because I *need* it!"

I have played this game so much that I have found at least 100+ ist runes and a crazy amount of vex runes. I have only found *ONE* ethereal bugged monarch. Don't tell me this is worth an um. It's not.

I will trade for fair value.|||Were you sincerely interested in negotiating a trade with him for that shield?|||Quote:








Were you sincerely interested in negotiating a trade with him for that shield?




Sure, but nowhere near an Um rune. A 4os normal, non-superior monarch is worth more than 2 ums as it is.|||pm sent, mysticc. Please try very hard not to dress up what I say like that.

Sorry to pollute your thread, healingyeti. This is my last post in this thread.|||The odds of an ethereal bugged monarch dropping are higher than a legit Vex rune pretty easily.

The odds of a normal monarch dropping from gobs and gobs of monsters in Hell difficulty is 1:6000. 1 in 20 of those will be ethereal, and 1 in 4 of those will be ebugged should you try your luck with the socketing formula, for odds of 1:480000. This is actually pretty small time when it comes to D2 drop odds-- getting say, Dracul's Grasp from a random monster is like 1/3 that. You get a better chance with bosses but they're in smaller supply so there are less drop chances.

The problem is they're not all picked up cause a lot of people don't think they're actually valuable. But if ethereal bugged monarchs were currency they would be pretty decisively below Vex in value assuming no duping or such, which has drop odds of worse than 1:2000000 from most basic monsters in hell, and no odds better than the previous 1:480000 aside from council members and super-uniques-- and even those don't have great odds.|||Quote:








The odds of an ethereal bugged monarch dropping are higher than a legit Vex rune pretty easily.

The odds of a normal monarch dropping from gobs and gobs of monsters in Hell difficulty is 1:6000. 1 in 20 of those will be ethereal, and 1 in 4 of those will be ebugged should you try your luck with the socketing formula, for odds of 1:480000. This is actually pretty small time when it comes to D2 drop odds-- getting say, Dracul's Grasp from a random monster is like 1/3 that. You get a better chance with bosses but they're in smaller supply so there are less drop chances.

The problem is they're not all picked up cause a lot of people don't think they're actually valuable. But if ethereal bugged monarchs were currency they would be pretty decisively below Vex in value assuming no duping or such, which has drop odds of worse than 1:2000000 from most basic monsters in hell, and no odds better than the previous 1:480000 aside from council members and super-uniques-- and even those don't have great odds.




I don't know if you're numbers are correct, but from experience, the monarchs drop far less frequently.

Even if that's the case though - we'll just grant you it - you cannot ignore the fact that this is a prized item to be taken into non-ladder, while a vex rune is worth crap.

Random normal eth spirit monarchs with 35% are worth 2-3x the price of normal 35% spirits. Ebug ones usurp even those prices by massive amounts.|||Certainly. And I'd imagine that would be a very relevant issue in the non ladder trading forum a few weeks from now when some guy is looking for one!